Pastor Nate sits down with his dad, Rev. David Warren Preisinger, for a conversation about church history, family, faith, and why people keep showing up even when church gets messy. Dave shares what it was like to be part of Seminex, the Seminary in Exile, and how that experience shaped his understanding of leadership, community, and trusting God in uncertain moments.

At the heart of this episode is a simple but honest question: why does church still matter? Together, Nate and Dave talk about relationships, service, worship, justice, and the grace that keeps calling us back into community.

What You’ll Learn:

Why the Seminex walkout mattered in Lutheran history

How church conflict can still reveal God’s presence

Why relationships are central to healthy church community

How churches can serve their neighborhoods with care and dignity

Why worship, ritual, and belonging still matter today

Chapters:

00:00 Coming up on Together 4 Good

01:00 Meet Rev. David Warren Preisinger

02:35 What was Seminex?

07:20 Trusting God during the seminary walkout

12:20 How Seminex shaped church leadership

20:00 A heart for urban ministry

27:00 How do we proclaim Jesus today?

31:00 Serving the neighborhood with dignity

34:00 What is the church’s role now?

38:00 Why are people leaving church?

41:30 Why Dave still goes to church

45:00 Trusting the gift of the church

47:00 Forgiveness, justice, and Amos

51:20 God is in the middle of it all

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